Today’s guest started his career with Philips Medical Systems as a mechanical design engineer. After getting a taste for the business side of things at Philips, Angelo Gray decided he wanted more and enrolled at Columbia Business School. While in New York, Angelo was exposed to investment banking and decided to join the healthcare team at Goldman Sachs. After six great years with Goldman, Angelo realized that he didn’t want to be a career investment banker and joined DaVita as the Group Finance Director for the Pacific Northwest.
I’ve known Angelo for a long time but I am still blown away by his resume – it doesn’t get much better than this. Angelo is smart and works very hard, but I think he has done well for a few other reasons:
- Listen to how thoughtful and deliberate Angelo is. You can hear his engineering mind at work in every answer he gives. He cares and puts a lot of effort into whatever he chooses to spend his time on.
- We had a great discussion about mentors. I had no idea until this discussion how important it is to the culture at Goldman. Angelo also reveals how to find and sustain mentor relationships.
- Angelo brought up the importance of people several times, whether it was in the context of mentoring, deciding on the next opportunity or when thinking about legacy. Keep that in mind for your career.
In this episode we discuss:
- A path from engineering to investment banking to running the finance group for a $1 billion business unit of a healthcare services company
- Being deliberate when making decisions vs. just getting lucky!
- The relationship between company brand and the quality of people
- Coffee conversations with formal and informal mentors
- Using mentors to help you think through decisions, large and small
- How to establish mentor relationships outside of your immediate group or organization
- The differences in responsibility and level of ownership between running a P&L for a company and running a transaction for a client as an investment banker
- What it is like to lead a team within a large organization
- Balancing economic outcomes with outcomes desired by other stakeholders (customers, patients, employees, etc.)
- Why getting results always comes back to your relationship with other people
Music by Elijah from NOMADS